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Fire in the Valley: The Making of the
Personal Computer First published in 1984, Fire in the Valley by Paul Freiberger and Michael Swaine told the sexy and compelling computer history story of the making of the personal computer. Based on interviews with more than 100 of the individuals who did it, Fire in the Valley became a riveting, cult classic that combined solid reporting and exciting story-telling. Fire in the Valley was out of print for years. Now McGraw-Hill has released a new edition, updated by Paul Freiberger and Michael Swaine with new chapters and pictures. Join the Yahoo! Author Series as we welcome back Paul and Michael to chat about this ground-breaking book on Wednesday, February 16th at 7pET/4pPT. |
honey_crash asks: so who do you credit
as being the leader in the pc industry?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: Historically, we give
credit to
author_fire_in_the_valley: Ed
Roberts, who's company created the Mits Altair
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: A lot of the credit
also has to go to a collection of people known as the Homebrew computer
club
author_fire_in_the_valley: a few of
those people are probably well know to all of you out there
author_fire_in_the_valley: such as
author_fire_in_the_valley: Steve Wozniak
author_fire_in_the_valley: and Steven Jobs
Yahoo_Host1: Keep your questions for the authors of
Fire in the Valley: The Making of the Personal Computer coming!
slackinattitude asks: when was the first
computer built? and who built it?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: We talked about the
Mits Altair...and that first came to light
author_fire_in_the_valley: in January 1975
author_fire_in_the_valley: You could buy one of those
through the mail back then,
author_fire_in_the_valley: if you dared to try to put
it together!
jay_a12756 asks: It seems that Jobs and
Gates are the most widely recognized individuals from the early days of the PC.
However, I have heard that there were a number of advances made by others such
as the development team at Xerox. Who are these people and where are they
today?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
The star developers at Xerox have gone in many directions
author_fire_in_the_valley: Bob Metcalfe, credited with
creating ethernet
author_fire_in_the_valley: is a columnist for Infoworld
Magazine
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: A
lot of the pieces of what came to be a critical part of the personal computer
and the industry were initiated at Parc
author_fire_in_the_valley: they weren't all
commercialized back then, however,
author_fire_in_the_valley: but things like a windows
based User Interface
author_fire_in_the_valley: local area
networking
author_fire_in_the_valley: laser
printing
author_fire_in_the_valley: to name
a few
author_fire_in_the_valley: all came
out of those prestigious labs.
author_fire_in_the_valley: we talk about this to a
large extent in Fire in the Valley[x2m
author_fire_in_the_valley: we try to delegate credit
appropriately.
zooey_franny asks: are you going to
write a book about the internet boom?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: we touch on the
internet boom in the new Fire in the Valley
author_fire_in_the_valley: and we're trying to utilize
it with our own website
author_fire_in_the_valley: please come and
visit
author_fire_in_the_valley: we're not
sure what the next book is
author_fire_in_the_valley:
thoughts
Wed Feb 16 16:10:23 2000
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: you can leave us
message there
author_fire_in_the_valley: at
the website
author_fire_in_the_valley: if
you have book ideas for us.
Yahoo_Host1:
What was your motivation for writing the first book?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: It wasn't even an
industry yet
author_fire_in_the_valley:
when we started the first book
author_fire_in_the_valley: we thought it was going to
become a huge industry
author_fire_in_the_valley: that was going to change the
world
author_fire_in_the_valley: and it
seemed worthy of a book!
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: we were talking
regularly with people like Jobs, Gates
author_fire_in_the_valley: and even earlier
pioneers
author_fire_in_the_valley: and we
knew that they had wonderful stories to tell
author_fire_in_the_valley: and somebody had to get them
down on paper
author_fire_in_the_valley:
before they were forgotten
toddsegall asks: Do you believe that
Bill Gates revolutionized the computer industry or hampered its
development?
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Mike: How about a 3rd option?
author_fire_in_the_valley: That better than anyone
else
author_fire_in_the_valley: he has
understood
author_fire_in_the_valley: and
capitalized on it
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: Mike is right!
_O07 asks: Is there a physical limit to
how fast computers can get? If yes, what is it?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: I think that for
speed, the key thing to think about now is the speed from one computer to
another
author_fire_in_the_valley: that's
what will improve the performance and experience that you're having right
now
author_fire_in_the_valley: things like
DSL
author_fire_in_the_valley: and cable
modems
author_fire_in_the_valley: and Fiber
are an important part of that.
slackinattitude asks: who was the most
interesting person you interviewed for the book?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: Everybody was more
interesting than you might expect.
author_fire_in_the_valley: what was
wonderful
author_fire_in_the_valley: and I
think it comes alive in the book...
author_fire_in_the_valley: was how passionate they
were
author_fire_in_the_valley: we'd be
chatting with them about a daily topic
author_fire_in_the_valley: and when we told them what
we were writing the book on
author_fire_in_the_valley: they really came
alive
author_fire_in_the_valley: It's
probably true that Steve Jobs turned out not to be disappointing.
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: Jobs was and is a
fascinating person
author_fire_in_the_valley: we talk in the book about
lesser-known people who had fascinating involvement with the PC as
well
author_fire_in_the_valley: I think of
Chris Espinosa
author_fire_in_the_valley:
who literally grew up at Apple, computer
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: we also met a lot of
interesting people
author_fire_in_the_valley: not necessarily as famous as
Jobs and Gates
author_fire_in_the_valley:
but are important in our book
author_fire_in_the_valley: and cared about the world in
many ways
author_fire_in_the_valley: and
were involved in social movements
author_fire_in_the_valley: and anti-war
movements
author_fire_in_the_valley: and
understood the relationship between technology
author_fire_in_the_valley: and their social
concerns
Yahoo_Host1: We're chatting with
Paul Freiberger and Michael Swaine authors of Fire in the Valley: The Making of
the Personal Computer. Send in your questions for them now!
lauren_magee asks: What are your
thoughts on wireless networks?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: Since about a year
ago
author_fire_in_the_valley: I moved out
of the valley
author_fire_in_the_valley: to
rural Oregon
author_fire_in_the_valley:
where i can't get cable
author_fire_in_the_valley: or any other fast modem
connection
author_fire_in_the_valley: I'm
very interested in wireless for internet access
author_fire_in_the_valley: and I hope Al Gore is
also
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: It's
amazing.
author_fire_in_the_valley: The
whole area of wireless is going to change real fast
author_fire_in_the_valley: in the next year or
two
author_fire_in_the_valley: with
capabilities and options changing rapidly
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike will probably be ok
there out in the woods! :)
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: In about a week, I'll
have strong opinions about wireless
author_fire_in_the_valley: for local area
networks
author_fire_in_the_valley: i'm
installing a five person Apple Airport Wireless Network
author_fire_in_the_valley: here in my three building
home office
punkrox101 asks: Do you think that Bill
Gates marketed Windows better than Steve Jobs marketed the macs operating
system?
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Paul: It's hard to imagine marketing windows any better.
joe_willard asks: Where can I buy your
BOOK?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul:
You can go to our website
author_fire_in_the_valley: and click on the amazon
link
author_fire_in_the_valley: and when
you get to amazon
author_fire_in_the_valley: you can specify as much
quantity as you like!
author_fire_in_the_valley: it makes a great
gift.
Yahoo_Host1: Is it a very technical
book?
author_fire_in_the_valley: It's not a
technical book at all...It's about exciting people doing things to change the
world
author_fire_in_the_valley: the
business world, the financial world, entertainment world, creative
world
author_fire_in_the_valley: there's
also 100 or so photos.
megawatt_ca asks: who is Chriss
Espinosa?
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Mike: I'm not sure what his job is today,
author_fire_in_the_valley: but he's still at
Apple
author_fire_in_the_valley: Chris was
one of the homebrew computer club members
author_fire_in_the_valley: at age 14
author_fire_in_the_valley: Steve Wozniak was his ride
to the club
author_fire_in_the_valley: and
Chris wrote the program that you saw if you saw an Apple II demo'ed in the
early days
author_fire_in_the_valley: The
CEOs who walked through Apple's offices in 1977\
author_fire_in_the_valley: got demo's of the machine
from this (then 15 year old boy)
author_fire_in_the_valley: Chris is in his 30s
now
author_fire_in_the_valley: and stayed
with Apple through all the dark years
author_fire_in_the_valley: and Chris could write a
book!
punkrox101 asks: Do you think that
Pirates of Silicon Valley is close to what really happened?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: It is a movie based on
our book.
author_fire_in_the_valley: Part
of the movie closely uses some of our research
author_fire_in_the_valley: the movie was
energetic
author_fire_in_the_valley: and
fun!
author_fire_in_the_valley: it didn't
get everything right, though.
author_fire_in_the_valley: and it couldn't cover more
than a snapshot of the whole picture.
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: It got some things
verrry wrong!
author_fire_in_the_valley: IE
IBM meeting with Microsoft
author_fire_in_the_valley: the movie implied that the
meeting was Microsoft's idea
author_fire_in_the_valley: when the truth is really
more interesting
author_fire_in_the_valley:
that mighty IBM sought out little Microsoft
author_fire_in_the_valley: to help it create its PC
CJJohnson43 asks: I grew up in the
valley, but I didn't take notice of what was happening until the early 80s. Was
there a single company or event that really made the world take notice of the
valley. (e.g. PC compatibles, Macintosh, Atari, etc.)
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: CJ you're probably not
as rich as you could be!
author_fire_in_the_valley: stanford
university...
author_fire_in_the_valley:
the entire semiconductor industry
author_fire_in_the_valley: Intel
author_fire_in_the_valley: Hewlett Packard
author_fire_in_the_valley: and of course
Apple
author_fire_in_the_valley: among
dozens of others
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Mike: but the name really pays homage to the semiconductor companies
_O07 asks: Do you think Microsoft will
dominate the computer software market for many more years to
come?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
That's becoming less and less obvious
author_fire_in_the_valley: at the risk of giving
Microsoft any ammunition against the justice department
author_fire_in_the_valley: some competition is actually
appearing on the scene
author_fire_in_the_valley: particularly
LINUX
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: It's
interesting
author_fire_in_the_valley: It's
more appropriate to speak of the software market
author_fire_in_the_valley: that's what makes things
more complex
author_fire_in_the_valley: as
MS understands, it's not about building software exclusively for computers
anymore
author_fire_in_the_valley: the
battleground is much more vast
author_fire_in_the_valley: since it includes, your
television set, too.
Yahoo_Host1: We're
chatting with Paul Freiberger and Michael Swaine authors of Fire in the Valley:
The Making of the Personal Computer, send in your questions for them now!
_O07 asks: Is there a future for
Linux?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
I've been covering the industry since 1981
author_fire_in_the_valley: and for the first 8 years
the standard joke
author_fire_in_the_valley: was that every year somebody
would announce that that year
author_fire_in_the_valley: UNIX would take
off
author_fire_in_the_valley: what has
prevented that from happening is any standardization
author_fire_in_the_valley: there are just too many
UNIXES
author_fire_in_the_valley: and LINUX
may finally be the banner that UNIX proponents can rally behind.
author_fire_in_the_valley: It is 100 percent cheaper
than windows
author_fire_in_the_valley: a
remarkable competitive advantage!
slackinattitude asks: is the net going
to replace tv?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: No one knows what's
going to happen.
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Everyone who claims to know
author_fire_in_the_valley: has already placed their
bet.
author_fire_in_the_valley: It's clear
that you'll be using the net with all kinds of devices
author_fire_in_the_valley: including TV
author_fire_in_the_valley: microwave ovens
author_fire_in_the_valley: and of course
computers
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
my take is that the TV will not be replaced by the computer
author_fire_in_the_valley: until the couch is replaced
by the chair
author_fire_in_the_valley: the
desk chair
punkrox101 asks: Is silicon valley the
place to go if you want to be somebody in the computer business?
author_fire_in_the_valley: but there are a few other
places to be also
author_fire_in_the_valley: in fact the internet and the
web have made it possible
author_fire_in_the_valley: to argue that you don't have
to be in Silicon Valley
author_fire_in_the_valley: anymore
author_fire_in_the_valley: the venture capitalists are
investing a ton of money
author_fire_in_the_valley: all of the
country
author_fire_in_the_valley: \notably
in New York recently, as well\
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: as someone who
recently moved to Oregon
author_fire_in_the_valley: and lives on the
net
author_fire_in_the_valley: I like
Paul's answer,
author_fire_in_the_valley:
but Silicon Valley is still Silicon Valley
author_fire_in_the_valley: and ist still a
magnet
author_fire_in_the_valley: for
people with bright ideas
author_fire_in_the_valley: who want to make a
fortune
robbd_again asks: My question is more
towards the future of PC...with the upcoming waves of consumer internet
appliances, corporate thin-client applications and integrated cellular
technologies - how do you see major PC manufacturers adjusting to keep
up?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
One of the CEOs who has committed his company completely to the internet
appliance market
author_fire_in_the_valley:
is Jean-Louis Gassee
author_fire_in_the_valley: who is the CEO of
Bee
author_fire_in_the_valley: and Gasse
has said
author_fire_in_the_valley: that he
did not believe internet appliances will replace PCs
author_fire_in_the_valley: the question
remains
Wed Feb 16 16:40:28 2000
author_fire_in_the_valley: how do you sell PCs in a
market
author_fire_in_the_valley: that is
pretty close to saturation
author_fire_in_the_valley: when people see
opportunities to surf the web etc.
author_fire_in_the_valley: via 100 dollar
devices
author_fire_in_the_valley: they can
carry in their pockets
author_fire_in_the_valley: I'm glad i don't have to
answer that question!
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: The devices that are
not basic desktop PCs
author_fire_in_the_valley: represent a way to do an end
run
author_fire_in_the_valley: around the
ever-charging MS line
_O07 asks: Do you see an overpopulation
in the computer industry in the next few years?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: I don't think there is
over-saturation
author_fire_in_the_valley:
I think there are lots of people who are going to get computers for the first
time
author_fire_in_the_valley: the model
for making money in that scenario
author_fire_in_the_valley: is still
changing
author_fire_in_the_valley: you may
get your computer for free
author_fire_in_the_valley: and just pay for
services
lauren_magee asks: I've heard we're
going to start seeing other technology and telecom hot spots pop up around the
country. Where's the next Silicon Valley?
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: You could argue that
it's in New York
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Venture capitalists are telling me how much they are investing
author_fire_in_the_valley: in companies there these
days
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
Anywhere there is a major university
author_fire_in_the_valley: also, it seems that people
in the Silicon Valley are willing to accept larger and larger
commutes
author_fire_in_the_valley: from
areas outside the valley
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: Bill deserves plenty
of credit
author_fire_in_the_valley: It was
his *stated* vision
author_fire_in_the_valley: to bring computers into the
home
author_fire_in_the_valley: e hasn't
been entirely successful,
author_fire_in_the_valley: but how can you argue with
his success?
author_fire_in_the_valley:
Although if MS software was lighter and friendlier
author_fire_in_the_valley: computers would be moving
into the home even more rapidly.
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike: I think bringing
computers to the masses is exactly what Bill should be credited with
author_fire_in_the_valley: others have
innovated
author_fire_in_the_valley: Bill
has popularized
author_fire_in_the_valley:
and exploited
author_fire_in_the_valley:
there are those who think that his popularization and exploitation have gotten
to the point of cramping the style of the innovators
author_fire_in_the_valley: but that may all change in
the next chapter!
author_fire_in_the_valley: (of Fire in the
Valley)
author_fire_in_the_valley: yet to
be written
Yahoo_Host1: Paul Freiberger and
Michael Swaine have to go now. Thank you so much for joining us.
author_fire_in_the_valley: Paul: It's been fun talking
with you all here at Yahoo!
author_fire_in_the_valley: check out
www.fireinthevalley.com
author_fire_in_the_valley: and let us know what you
think of the book
author_fire_in_the_valley: and of the site
author_fire_in_the_valley: we'd love to come back
again!
author_fire_in_the_valley: Mike:
Yeah seriously!
author_fire_in_the_valley:
stop by and click on the *email the authors* link
author_fire_in_the_valley: we'd love to hear from
you!
author_fire_in_the_valley: thanks!
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